Zetlin: Time for Bo to take next step
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by Derek Zetlin
Wednesday, December 3, 2008 00:00
If you ask any businessman, teacher, politician or scientist how to be successful, they’ll all tell you to be goal-oriented. Set a target; once you achieve it, strive for another. The same holds true in sports. Or at least it should.
It’s hard to argue with Bo Ryan’s seven straight (in seven tries) NCAA Tournament appearances with Wisconsin, four Division III National Championships at UW-Platteville and the highest winning percentage among active coaches with at least 20 years under their belts. That’s why I’m not going to argue with the numbers. The goals, on the other hand, are a different story.
Since arriving in Madison in 2001, Ryan has verbally made it clear that winning Big Ten championships is more important to him than postseason success. He has won three conference titles in his seven seasons at UW and has never made it to the Final Four. He also takes pride in graduating his players — a phenomenon often overlooked in today’s game — as evidenced by his steering clear of the Mike Conley Jr.’s, O.J. Mayo’s and Derrick Rose’s of the basketball world. Nothing wrong with that, but it does raise an interesting question about recruiting.
Ryan is one of, if not the best, college coach today in terms of maximizing production with the least amount of overall talent. But analyzing recruiting is like critiquing the CIA. It’s hard for anyone outside of the program to criticize or commend — fans and media alike, no matter how knowledgeable they think they may be — simply because no one knows what goes on behind closed doors.
That said, until last year, when Ryan recruited Ian Markolf from San Antonio and Ryan Evans from Phoenix (neither of whom were highly touted nationally), it was rather obvious that, for the most part, Ryan stayed within the Midwest bubble in his search of future Badgers. In turn, these players knew that when they came to Wisconsin, they were going to be patient, run the swing offense and contend for a Big Ten title.
Seems logical, but my perspective changed a bit Sunday while reading John Feinstein’s biography of Red Auerbach, perhaps the greatest basketball coach that ever lived.
“Their whole thing is their system. They bring in players and say, ‘You will play this way,’ even if their skills aren’t right for playing that way,” Auerbach said of stubborn college coaches. “One thing I always noticed with (Duke head coach Mike) Krzyzewski was that he changed the way he ran his offense every year based on the players he had. That’s the kind of flexibility you need.”
Granted, this quote is taken out of context. As GM of the Celtics, Auerbach wanted to steal Krzyzewski from the Dukies and hire him as the new Boston head coach. So the quote is somewhat skewed, as it is in relation to Auerbach’s confidence in Coach K’s ability to make the switch to the pros (in comparison to Kentucky’s Rick Pitino, who took over the Green instead and failed miserably), not success at the collegiate level. But Krzyzewski has won three Division I National Championships and has seven other Final Four appearances at Duke by recruiting talented kids from Maryland to Oregon and adjusting accordingly based on their strengths. So it does raise an interesting point, especially in relation to the man we’ve been accustomed to see scowling at referees from the Badgers’ bench.
With Ryan, it’s all about the system: the swing offense. He gives up athleticism points to recruit smart, fundamental players to fill specific roles and stay for four years. And they run it and run it until they’re swinging in their sleep. He knows what he wants and he goes out and gets it.
With his system, Ryan has created a program that is in the Top 25 and makes the Big Dance every year. It doesn’t contend for a national title, but it will be a half-step below that on an annual basis. To some national media, that is perceived as mediocrity, not being able to get over the hump. They’d be right, if Ryan was trying to turn Madison into Durham, N.C.
Coincidentally, this reminds me of a different team, one that plays just blocks from the Kohl Center, run by a guy named Bielema. You’d think that following Barry Alvarez’s overwhelming success and playing in four consecutive January bowl games — the program’s current pride and joy — Bielema would be able to bring some out-of-state, four and five-star recruits to Wisconsin’s capital.
I’ve yet to figure that one out.
With the way Ryan recruits and the system he has intact, Wisconsin basketball will not be a national powerhouse, and it won’t produce many superstars for David Stern’s enjoyment. It will, however, be a Big Ten contender every season, be a true “team” by definition, graduate its players and yield smart individuals prepped for real-world success.
There’s certainly more to life than wins, losses and weakside help; I’ll agree with Ryan on that every day of the week. But when you have a strong foundation in place and you continue to meet the same goals year after year (compete in conference, make the tournament), isn’t it time to raise the bar when there’s more out there to accomplish?
For Ryan to be considered among the best in the business — which I believe is the case — he’s got to take the next step, a la Michigan State’s Tom Izzo.
Krzyzewski made his first Final Four in his eighth season in Durham. This is Ryan’s eighth cardinal and white campaign.
Derek is a junior majoring in economics. He’s very curious to hear your thoughts on Bo Ryan’s legacy. Is it time to change the system? Is everything fine the way it is? Let Derek know at dzetlin@badgerherald.com.
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Anonymous (December 3, 2008 @ 8:14am):
Great article. I completely agree. Wisconsin is a great team in the Big Ten with the system they have and that's fine but if they want to compete for something better, something needs to be changed. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy that we do well every year in the Big Ten, but I'd be even happier if we could compete for a national title.
Anonymous (December 3, 2008 @ 10:10am):
I thought I was going to hate you when I started reading this article, but it turns out you're pretty spot on.
Every year in the tourney, there never seems to be that extra 'umph' needed to get them over the hump and into the final weekend.
All said, we need to remember he DID win D3 championships, and that's no easy feat. I think that expanding the recruiting field outside the midwest will help bring in some of of the guys needed to kick it up a notch (ie. Wilson).
Anonymous (December 3, 2008 @ 11:17am):
Okay, I disagree. This author has not done his homework and is passing off tired critiques as his own, in my opinion.
To begin, Coach Ryan does recruit top talent. Brian Butch was a McDonald's All-American, Jason Bohannon was Mr. Basketball in Iowa, Devin Harris just put up 47 on Phoenix. Alando Tucker was Big Ten Player of the Year. I bet Trevon Hughes, Michael Flowers and Marcus Landry would not like to be called unathletic. The Wisconsin is slow and has no talent stereotype/stigma lacks a bit of perspective and fact.
Second, Bo's "system" is premised more on basketball fundamentals and less on the swing. People can't help but focus on the swing but they are missing the bigger point. Bo's "system" is great defense, getting to the free throw line, not turning the ball over and taking good shots. The swing just happens to be his offense of choice.
Third, to match the author's coach reference, John Wooden - without a doubt the greatest collegiate coach of all-time (and we are talking about NCAA and not the Celtics, right?) - told Bo Ryan that his was one of the few teams that he could still bare to watch. That's fairly high praise from the highest of authorities.
Finally, Bo has never said he values the Big Ten title over the post season. What he has said is that he's more concerned about the Big Ten regular season title than the Big Ten tournament title. The NCAA tournament is obviously every team's biggest goal.
I would agree that if Wisconsin had a free-wheeling style (a la Memphis) we may have that 1 special season every decade where all the pieces come together. But is that 1 team worth years of disappointment and discipline-less play (let alone low graduation rates, etc)? Look at Ohio State. They had the team of dreams a couple years ago. Then everyone left for the NBA and now they continue to rebuild. In the meantime, Wisconsin achieved a #1 ranking, Big Ten regular season and tournament championships and exciting NCAA tournament runs.
So, do you blow your load early once or keep it going at a steady pace with some pretty good highs and few lows? I guess intelligent people can agree to disagree, but I simply ask the author to keep some perspective. Because, personally, I would rather watch a fundamentally sound team that is in every game that they play than a hot shot crew who gets blown out because of turnovers, bad shots, isolation plays and selfishness.
Let's all keep our heads and use this past football season as a guide - conference championships and Elite 8 appearances (like Capital 1 bowls) are not guaranteed. Let's be thankful that games in late February in the Kohl Center mean something. Ohio State probably won't be saying the same thing this year.
Anonymous (December 3, 2008 @ 11:24am):
Although Im sympathetic to what youre saying, Im not sure you are giving these teams quite as much credit as they deserve. Its not like when we get to the tournament we get blown away by teams that play at a different level than us. In 2005, we went to the elite 8 and gave the eventual champions the best game they got all tournament. In 2006 and 07 we had the teams in place to make a deep run, but the losses of Landry and Stiemsma in 06 and Butch in 07 cut otherwise promising teams short. I guess my point is its not like we arent capable of competing on a national level, its just that the pieces havent all come together at the right time yet, and often times in march it comes down to a little bit of luck. Fortunately luck favors the prepared, and no coach is better prepared than Bo Ryan.
Anonymous (December 3, 2008 @ 12:07pm):
Terrible article.
Anonymous (December 3, 2008 @ 1:22pm):
remember when van gundy and stu jackson were the coaches and we got top talent only to finish in the bottom tier of the big ten? sure do miss those years. keep it up bo!!!
Anonymous (December 3, 2008 @ 8:18pm):
I thought this was a pretty good article. The thing we have to remember when "taking it to the next level" is that it takes time.
You use the business analogy, so I will too. The powerhouses usually stay that way for years and are tough to knock off. You don't just waltz into a superstar high schooler's house and whisk them away from NC, UCLA, or Duke without a little cache, and that is what Ryan is building as we speak.
Bo has been slowly, but surely building respect in the Midwest to the point where I'm sure Wisconsin has an advantage over other Big Ten schools. Next it will take a few big tournament wins in March.
It's natural to get a little hungrier as your team exhibits a successful track record, but remember that it is HARD to go deep in March. Sweet 16 is indeed pretty sweet.
Ironically with all this talk about recruiting talented players, I think this Bo Ryan team could be the most dangerous. They don't have the media darling, they are pretty deep, and they have more athleticism than most give them credit for. I think that by the end of the season you will see four solid guards causing a lot of problems for other teams and it looks like Leur is on pace to be a better all around player than Butch. Add the consistency of Landry, Krabby, Bohannon, and Hughes and this is a really nice "team."
Anonymous (December 3, 2008 @ 8:19pm):
Great article.
Wisconsin sports are admittedly complacent, and much too happy with "good" results. People constantly call coaches like Barry Alvarez and Bo Ryan some of the best ever, simply because Wisconsin hasn't seen better. Until you win a National Championship, you are not even in consideration for the "best ever" praise.
Anonymous (December 5, 2008 @ 10:02am):
Injuries to Alando Tucker and Brian Butch have been as responsible for derailing deep tourney runs as anything that Bo Ryan does. Winning in the the tourney has as much to do with luck as anything else. Would MSU have their title had Kenyon Martin not broken his leg before the tourney in 2000? Maybe, but it certainly helped. The notion that Bo Ryan hasn't prepared teams capable of reaching the Final Four is incorrect.
Anonymous (December 6, 2008 @ 5:01pm):
You obviously are not from Wisconsin and no nothing of how poor the Badgers were in the 1980s and 1990s before Bo Ryan got to Madison.
Badger fans are thrilled to have these kind of teams competing year in and year out and how quick you forget that a Badger team (with no NBA seniors on it) took No.1 North Carolina, the eventual national champions with three first round draft picks, into the final minute. Bo was seven points away from the Final Four and it had nothing to do with the swing.
This story was a waste of time written by a clueless coastie.
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