Opinion: Guest column

Horn misguided on his views of Israel, Taglit-Birthright trips

I just finished reading Steve Horn’s opinion piece in The Badger Herald (“Just because it’s your Birthright, doesn’t mean it’s not wrong,” Feb. 16) about the Taglit-Birthright Israel program that provides all expenses paid trips to Israel for young Jewish students. According to Mr. Horn, the organization is nothing less than a public relations tool used to coerce young American students to blindly support Israel and the Israeli government in everything it does and has done, and to ignore the past. I must disagree. Let me respond to Mr. Horn by first going over some history.

Much of the Middle East was ruled by the Turks until the end of World War I. After WWI, the British received the Iraqi and Palestinian Mandates and subsequently established the countries of Iraq and Jordan. Jordan consisted of 70 percent of the Palestinian Mandate. Still yet to be determined was what to do with the remaining 30 percent, which was occupied by both Palestinians and Jews. While Mr. Horn would have us believe that the entire area was occupied by native Palestinians, the truth is Jews have lived in this area for thousands of years and some areas, including Jerusalem, had more Jews than Muslims, Christians or Turks before the advent of modern Zionism in the late 19th century. As Jewish immigration increased, so did immigration of Arabs from Arab countries. Partition was inevitable and was considered by the United Nations in 1948.

Partition was agreed to by the Jews but not by the Palestinians or the surrounding Arab countries. When the Jews established the State of Israel in 1948, the Arabs attacked with the clear objective of destroying the state and “throwing the Jews into the sea.” The Jews were able to repel the attack, and an armistice was agreed upon. While Israel gained additional territory, Jordan took over the West Bank, and Egypt took over the Gaza Strip. These borders lasted until 1967, when the Arabs once again attacked Israel unsuccessfully. The result was that Israel gained control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

While it is true many Palestinians were displaced in 1948, the bulk of those who remained in their homes and did not assist the Arab invaders were not displaced. The fact that Israel’s population today is 20 percent Palestinian, all of whom are Israeli citizens, is a testament to this. While Mr. Horn’s statement that “750,000 Palestinians were forcefully evicted from their homes” is sheer propaganda and fantasy, as he never mentions anything about the Jewish refugees. Perhaps he would say there weren’t any. In fact, when Israel was established, more than 1 million Jews had been forced to leave their homes and possessions in a number of Arab countries. Those who went to Israel were welcomed and resettled and did not linger in refugee camps. Unfortunately, Arab refugees were treated differently by their fellow Arabs. No effort was made to resettle them in the areas where they took refuge. They were forced to remain in refugee camps where many of them remain today.

These facts raise a number of pertinent questions about the last 60 years of Middle East history. For example: Why were the Palestinian refugees never allowed to become citizens of Lebanon, Syria or Egypt? When Jordan took over the West Bank, and Egypt assumed control over the Gaza Strip in 1948, why did they not establish an independent Palestinian state? When the Palestinians were offered a state in 1948, 2000 and again in 2008, why did they turn down the offer and instead decide to fight? Why did Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Hamas in the Gaza Strip, attack Israel with rockets after the Israelis pulled out of these territories? Why was the PLO established in 1964, before the 1967 war and before Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza? Why is Jordan, with a population that is a majority Palestinian, not considered the Palestinian state? The answer to these questions, I’m afraid, leads to the crux of the problem. As they stated in 1948, and as many Arabs and Palestinians still believe today, a Jewish state in their midst remains unacceptable.

Now, let’s get back to Mr. Horn’s complaint about Taglit-Israel Birthright. He complains it operates a public relations operation. There is no secret the organization tries to strengthen the relationship between young American Jews and Israel from which all Jews trace their origin. And what’s wrong with that? One would hope that all countries would have similar organizations to maintain such relationships, e.g., an organization for Irish Americans and Ireland, one for Greek Americans and Greece and so on. Mr. Horn’s suggestion that participants are “coerced” into doing or believing anything is ridiculous. No participant I’ve talked to has ever suggested that anything like “brainwashing” is going on.

My children went on the same trip Mr. Horn went on and explained to me that, yes, they do get the Israeli point of view, but they are also encouraged to do their own research and analysis and form their own conclusions. Unfortunately, Mr. Horn did not do that. For those who have questions, I hope they will do the necessary research. If they do, I believe they will conclude, as I do, that Israel is a great country, that it makes mistakes, that it usually tries to do the right thing, that it provides opportunities to its Arab citizens that they would not have in any Arab country, and that it has attempted, and continually tries, to make peace with a number of Arab countries and Palestinian representatives, despite the fact that they either want to or wanted to destroy the state of Israel.

Julian Klazkin

Proud Badger Parent

klazkinj@gao.gov

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Nice Rebuttal. Thanks for your perspective!

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I’d agree that Israel is indeed a great country with a fantastic arts community and prolific scientific research institutions among other laudable facets. Unfortunately, that doesn’t compensate for the objective fact that the Israeli government is operating a savage apartheid system that treats the Palestinians under their military purview like animals. The invasion of Gaza last year was not a mistake but a well-planned operation with the stated objective of demoralizing Gazans with a horrific exhibition of violence. Now, the history lesson was cute but you failed to address Steve’s main contention that the birthright operation serves an important function in Israel’s campaign to counter the rising tide of criticism from the international community. Despite the imperialist prerogative for overwhelming military support of Israel, the government’s rabid (and illegal) efforts to oppress Palestinians is difficult for even our government to ignore. (By the way, most people in cults can’t recognize that they’ve been “brainwashed” either.) In this forum dispelling the ubiquitous Zionist myths you presented isn’t worth it, but it is worth considering why Ireland and Greece don’t have similar birthright programs. Maybe it is because they have no need to instill in western youth the idea that their countries are universally benevolent in the face of an aggregating constellation of evidence to the contrary. -SS

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It’s sad that SS read my piece but ignored the facts and the questions I posed. Obviously, he has an agenda that is not susceptible to reason, understanding, and analysis. In law school, one professor used to tell me that if you have the facts on your side, you argue the facts. If you have the law on your side, you argue the law. If you have neither, you just argue. I’m afraid, SS is just arguing. As a friend of mine used to say, “there are none so blind as those who will not see.”

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It’s kind of funny that you would claim as “objective fact” that Israel “is operating a savage apartheid system,” and refer further to “the imperialist prerogative for overwhelming military support of Israel” and “ubiquitous Zionist myths.” No truly objective person would deny that there are tremendous problems with the way Israel treats the Palestinians, but you’re clearly looking at the Palestinian side of things with rose colored glasses. Your “facts” are not objective, and while the author’s letter isn’t exactly 100% historically accurate, you’re relying heavily on your own Palestinian myths.

Claiming that Israel is an apartheid regime is no different from claiming that Palestine is a genocidal one. Claiming that the motivation for supporting Israel is nothing but “imperialist prerogative” is no different from claiming that the motivation for supporting Palestine is nothing but anti-Semitism. And claiming that the Israelis’ dominant narrative is nothing but “ubiquitous Zionist myths” is no different from claiming that the Palestinians’ dominant narrative is pure fiction.

Now, if you really want to deal in objective fact, you’d know that Birthright’s goal is to enhance participants’ Jewish identity through connection to their ancestral homeland. I’m sure there are some trip providers that give nothing but the unvarnished “Israel can do no wrong” narrative, but there are a couple hundred thousand participants who can tell you that’s not what they heard on their trips and that they were encouraged to listen to the other side and make up their minds for themselves. So if you really want to take issue with the author’s contention that the original op-ed was a distortion, it comes down to four possibilities.

1) Possibly Steve was on one of the trips with a provider that operates via propaganda. That’s a problem, but that’s ONE trip, not ALL trips. They’re not all the same, and you’re full of propaganda yourself if you claim that they are. Perhaps you should direct Birthright’s attention to that provider — they’ve been known to drop providers that don’t meet their standards.

2) Possibly you have a problem with a program intended to strengthen Jewish identity. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on this because from your tone, I suspect you’re really just anti-Zionist, not truly anti-Semitic.

3) Possibly you have a problem with the idea of Israel as the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. You wouldn’t be alone in that — we call such people “historical revisionists.” But don’t pretend for a second that you’re “objective” if that’s you.

4) Possibly you’re genuinely interested in a peaceful solution to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. If so, labeling anything that depicts Israel in a positive light as “propaganda” and anything that depicts Israel in a negative light as “objective fact” is a ridiculous way of pursuing your goal. There’s more than enough blame to go around on both sides of the conflict, and pretending that the blame belongs only on one side, that you’re not biased, and that you’re not merely covering up your bias by making token, vague positive statements about the side you don’t like only shows that anything you have to say on the topic simply isn’t credible.

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SS falls into the same trap as Steve Horn…he has not done sufficient research, he ignores history, and he allows himself to fall prey to self-serving propaganda. As my law school professor once said,”if you have the facts on your side, argue the facts, if you have the law on your side, argue the law, if you have neither, just argue.” SS just argues. There are none so blind as though who will not see.

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Hi, I am doing a Model United conference which is simply a model version of the United Nations conference. I will be representing Israel as a countryand hope to point israels view across to the best of my ability. In order to do this, I need to write a mock UN resolution regarding the freedom of political prisoners, relating to the current situtation of Palestinian political prisoners held by Israel.

Therefore could you please help me by outlining how Israel as a country, would respond to the UN regarding the situation of Political prisoners in Palestine eg ass to whether they accept the idea of releases/will improve standards of prisons etc.

Of course, this does not have to very long, just so I have an idea on what Israels actions towards political prisoners willl be. I would be so grateful if you reply, as i really hope to represent Israel well and don’t think I can do this without guidance. thankyou Huma x

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As background, you might want to read “The Siege” by Conor Cruise O’Brien. Mr. O’Brien was on special assignment to the UN from Ireland and sat between Iraq and Israel as seating is in alphabetical order in the General Assembly. His book (1989) provides a unique perspective that should prove enlightening.

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Regarding Huma2009’s question, I think Israel would respond to the political prisioner issue in the following way: Palestinian political prisoners are being held because they were planning, carried out, or assisted in political acts of terror. That could include bomb making, bomb smuggling, harboring those involved in terrorist acts, or otherwise participating in acts that were intended to result and, if successful, would likely result in the death or maiming of individuals, or the destruction of property. While the release of prisoners would help those who reamined in prison, it would do nothing to alleviate the threat from terrorist acts or to punish those who engaged in them. In fact, it could encourage more such acts if the individuals involved were not punished.

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A burning question…

Hi Mr. Klazkin,

Can you please make me understand what a Jewish state is? Is it cultural/ religious/ ethnic? If the majority of Jews in Israel are secular and also Israeli includes- Druze, Bedouins, and Palestinians- What is a Jewish state?

What if one year, The Bedouin and Druze and the Palestinians (most muslim and some christian) have the same amount of kids as their Jewish Counterparts…what then? Will it still be a jewish state?

Also, Mr. Klazkin all Arabs are not the same. They dont all speak the same dialect, have the same religon, government, culture or societal structure- Palestinian Refugees cannot just blend in. I am sure you can understand this…seeing as Israel is a prime example of this (the religous (some who dont recognize the state themselves and live in it) vs secular Israelis vs Darker skinned Jews). See Mr. Klazkin, this stuff is complex. Refugees in Lebanon were highly mistreated- and had a BIG impact on their civil war… And Israel did not help, by assisting the Lebanese with Sabra and Shatila.

So, it seems that you are assuming that because we are all arabs…we will get along…I beg you to look at Israeli Society today and tell me if Israel is the prototype of people being “integrated.”

-SA

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SA,

Your questions are good ones and your observations are very astute. I’ll try to answer them.

A Jewish state is a state that is homeland and refuge for the Jewish people. After being brutalized, persecuted, and killed in so many countries for so long, a Jewish state is essential to the future well-being of the Jewish people. Yes, some are religious, some are secular, and some are just cultural Jews, but they are all Jews, and that is the key. That being said, it must be recognized that Israel, the Jewish state does not consist only of Jews. In fact, it is 20 percent Arab. It is essential that Israel respect the lives, rights, and religions of each of its non-Jewish citizens. While Israel has not been perfect in this regard, I believe that it has largely lived up to this responsiblity.

You asked what would happen if the population of Israel became largely Arab or Muslim rather than Jewish. I hope we never get to that. That’s why it is so important for Israel to disengage from the West Bank and Gaza Strip by signing a peace treaty with the Palestinians. It would be beneficial to Jews as well as the Palestinians. But because Israel has been under siege since 1948, any peace treaty would have to be enforceable and provide for the security of Israel.

I do realize that not all Arabs are the same and that they do not always get along. One only needs to look at the tragedies that occurred in Lebanon in the 1970s and 1980s to know that that is true. Certainly, Jews have similar problems even today with the rifts that exist between the ultra-orthodox and secular Jews in Israel and also between Jews of different skin colors. So, is Israel a perfect society and properly integrated? No, it isn’t. But I do believe there are people and forces in Israel today that are trying to improve on what they’ve accomplished so far. And I also believe that when an honest peace is finally achieved in the Middle East, that Jews and Arabs will mutually benefit and prosper.

Julian Klazkin

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The author claims that Palestinian refugees lost their homes and became refugees because they “assisted” Arab armies. This is nothing but fiction used by the author to justify the convenient ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their lands.

Also he claims that Israel gave refuge to Jews from other Arab countries while other Arab states did not so. The UN gave the land exactly for that purpose to create a state of Israel for Jewish refugees. Why should other Arab states give land when the UN clearly stated that Palestinians have their own lands and homes in Israel

And yes Israel is an Apartheid state. It is an organized effort by a very organized state to disposses the Palestinians of their lands and homes. Comparing their organized actions to a bunch of Palestnian terrorists is a specious and duplicitous argument.

People can also notice that the author Mr Klazkin never talks about Israeli actions that have nothing to do with fighting terror like their settlement pogroms against Palestinians.

This is all propaganda.

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