Right, so I am sure you’re prepared to defend AEPis “triatholon”, excessive and brutal hazing, and most notable: how IFC “dismissed” the charges against you last year. It’s a corrupt system and you seeing Sigma Chi out of trouble helps prop the inherently unjust system known to “regulate” Greek houses.

Everyone in Sigma Chi should voluntarily give a DNA sample to the police! IT IS THAT SIMPLE. If they don’t give samples, Sigma Chi’s name on campus must be scum!! They are hiding the truth. They already have hired lawyers and private investigators to keep this story quite. The truth in Sigma Chi must be exposed with DNA samples.

rock on, soffer.

I want everyone who reads this article read this guys article on cheating: http://badgerherald.com/oped/2009/02/26/cheatingadmirable-.php. This guy needs his morals straightened out. I would never trust this guy for a second.

Are you serious?

There should be no debate that a rape occurred in Sigma Chi.

Do we know if it was done by a member of the fraternity or some of the other non-members living in that house, the answer is no.

But let’s be honest here. A rape occurred in that house and it will be only a matter of time before someone who knows something comes forward.

She woke up in some guy’s room. Who is that guy? He should know something.

It is only a matter of time before the truth will come out and justice will be served.

If they really want to defend their reputations, each and every one of their members can submit DNA samples to the police, and they can turn in whoever was responsible for the most recent reported rape.

This was not the first time someone was raped at their house. As long as they don’t help the police identify and arrest the rapist, they deserve every smear they get.

great article. i respect your dedication to representing your own views, even in they can be seen as controversial. the bottom line is that not one single person has been charged with any crimes yet. the duke players are a great example, that completely ruined everything for those kids. lets wait till more evidence comes out before we get all crazy.

“The Greek community offers this campus so much” like what? I know they offer cheap beer, a better then thou attitude, and a problematic attitude towards real ethics.

Any organization that holds protecting their own above obeying the law is inherently bad.

Mark twain said it best,

Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. This guy now supports cheating and rape. and hes the leader of the fraternity. That doesn’t say a whole lot about the greek system..

what is worse Jordan rape or covering it up? Frat row needs to break ranks and let Sigma Chi eat it or you are all going down.

i can not stress enough the difference between the duke lacrosse team and this situation. NO NAMES have been leaked in this case.NOONE’s lives have been ruined, only their student organization has been smeared, which seems pretty valid- because of their stance in the matter. They would look a lot better if they spoke out against it.

the truth of the matter is, often times public opinion can reflect a great deal of truth about an organization. I do believe that greek has its place on campus, and they do good things, but if you do some research the original reasons for fraternities had very little to do with socializing, it was about poetry, and a brotherhood of knowledge, it was political. The Greek community COULD do a lot more to help their reputation, but the rest of the Campus has an obligation as well to try and recognize these good traits.

“This guy now supports cheating and rape.”

Yeah he’s really sticking up for rape in this article. Nothing says i support rape more than “If these young men are guilty as accused, I am not the first to say I hope they rot in hell”. Give me a break. All he’s saying is lets wait to see who the real culprits are before cruicfying everyone. I dont see the harm in that.

Those who hate the greek system will hate the greek system irregardless of rape allegations, hazing talk, or any negative news that comes out. Soffer, you hit the nail on its head. After the article in the Herald came out automatically some 100+ boys were guilty of rape in many peoples eyes. I wish people here wouldn’t be so disgusting with their insistence on making dumb comments.

11:02, he supports rape? your actually a fucking fool! Pardon my French, but did you even read this article

really really well done soffer.

That was a much needed article, thank you

Pretty sure no where in this entire article did he support rape…all you idiots saying that need to work on your reading comprehension. Saying that rape is disgusting doesn’t seem to give it much support. His argument is a good one, that we can’t jump to conclusions and need to allow the facts to surface before attacking Sigma Chi.

It’s good to hear a different perspective on this topic. All I’ve heard this past week has been, “All those Sigma Chi guys are scumbags and they should all get their faces kicked in.” The author is right that a few individuals who may be found guilty are absolutely scumbags, but you can’t generalize a whole fraternity or the entire greek community based on horrible actions by a few individuals. The rapists are unlike 99% of the guys in that fraternity and the rest of the guys in the greek system. Whoever wrote that the author supports rape is just ignorant. He is saying you have to be fair in judging everyone in this horrible situation; saying he supports rape is just ridiculous. Think before you write. Best of luck to the police in finding the perpetrators.

I’d beg to differ that if these alleged incidents are occurring under their roof - they know about it or have a good general idea of what is going on (and not). Defending the accused and comparing any rape to the Duke LAX team is disgraceful.

So we can’t generalize a frat based on the action of a few members. REALLY? These guys are self-proclaimed “brothers.” When they cover for each other and won’t come forward with information regarding a GANG rape, it’s safe to say they’re almost ALL douches. Do you really think nobody in that house knows anything about this? Come on. But they won’t screw over their buddies by giving any information. Classy bunch.

this is a really well put together article. It really sums up the whole situation quite well… “There is virtually no evidence available to make a judgement on what happened, so there is really no need to point the finger at someone yet. Let justice take its course.”

It’s a shame the frats don’t actually have a reputation to defend. A couple charity events a year? Good job give yourself a pat on the back. Nothing is ever going to change the image of Greeks as a bunch of wild college kids that spend a ton of money on booze and clothes and of course actually pay money to get friends and often get treated like crap by those very “friends”. I wish that the whole rape situaution completely shocked me…but it really didn’t that much at all. It’s not the girl woke up at boy scout camp.

An article such as this is extremely neccesary. If anything, it was a tad too apologetic for a very respectful and even-handed position.Unsubstantiated recriminations and the placing of collective guilt only leads to further victimization of innocent people.For now, lets spend our time praying for this girl’s healing and well being.There will be plenty of time for finger pointing.

As far as locals are concerned, many have been looking to get rid of most the Greek community, allegations of gang rape makes this a more likely reality.

He doesn’t plainly say it, but I think that Soffer is alluding to the frustration that fraternity members feel with the ‘acceptable’ prejudice and hostility towards frats on this campus. Frats are just formalized social circles. Not everyone who lives in a house knows the intimate details of everyone else’s life. When you are getting to know these kids over just a couple rush events over a couple months, its not like you can do psychiatric screening for rapists.

Blaming rape on Sigma Chi for whatever reason makes about as much sense as blaming christianity (assuming the perpetrator was christian). You could make up all sorts of contentions: christianity marginalizes women, there are stories of rape in the bible, there is a culture of male superiority… and it would make as much sense as blaming a fraternity for whatever ludicrous reasons like that they sometimes have parties where they invite freshman girls or they say the word “bro” a lot.

People in frats are just people. Actually, if you wanted to do a demographic study, due to the high private dorm freshman and out of state presence in frats, I would bet any amount of money that you would find that fraternity members are “better” people than the general population: they probably get higher grades and probably achieve higher incomes after graduation. But then that gets into another aspect of it… a lot of the frat-hate here seems to be about socio-economics and antisemitism as much as anything else.

I am a member of the Greek community, and I am embarrassed by this excuse of a column.

What if it were you, Jordan? Would you have all your brothers submit DNA samples, or would you do what Sig Chi’s executive board is doing by “protecting” their brothers. I hope for their own sake and for the conscious of their entire exec board that they turn in any information to the authorities so that those animals who raped that poor girl can be put away. I also hope that, god forbid, if you were presented with a similar situation as president of one of the most prominent frats on campus, you would respond by reprimanding anybody, no matter how close they are to you and your fraternity.

You really have to put things in perspective, and right now it seems like you would rather see the Greek community be secretive and protect each other than be responsible, and that’s not okay.

I know you’re all experts because you read the Badger Herald and “know” that frats rape, but for your information, the members of Sigma Chi have already told the police they would submit to DNA tests. This isn’t an issue.

(March 9, 2009 @ 12:57am), (March 9, 2009 @ 6:02am)

and all comments involving DNA samples….

Don’t you think this would of been ordered by the police/court already?

You want DNA samples, ask the police why this has not already been done and/or why it will not be done. If you still feel it should be done, demand it.

Any fraternity would gladly volunteer their blood for investigation? why wouldn’t they? some say to protect individuals. This doesn’t make sense, who wants to protect or NOT out rapists? What Fraternity wants the reputation of rapists? Sigma chi and any other fraternity would give up anyone they knew was a rapist, murder, etc regardless of relation or affiliation.

When it comes down to it, someone was raped, and this needs to be addressed. I thank the survivor of this crime for her courage to come forward despite the factors and beliefs in our society that discourage such reports. I hope that you find justice, support, and anything else you need or want to help you get through your experience.

(March 9, 2009 @ 3:51am)

“She woke up in some guy’s room. Who is that guy? He should know something.”

Wouldn’t have the police looked into this?

If they have nothing must have come from it.

If not, then why? I assume, I repeat I ASSUME that the girl does not remember who the guy was or which room she woke up in.

I don’t see any other possible reasons why this information is not known.

She DID say she went out with two Sigma Chis and a pledge from soroerity. These people must have information?

BUT then again, nothing must have came from it. The police are not that incompetent to simply not investigate.

To 3:15

You mean they are “better” people because they come from more affluent families, and then end up in more wealthy positions.

Thankfully being a “better” person has nothing to do with morals, huh?

As a graduate of both this University and the Greek system, I am utterly embarrassed by the majority of commentary on the past articles. I am no longer so proud of the fact I am a Badger, because, seemingly, any dumb fool can get in. First of all, because you read some half-ass one-sided article in the Badger Herald, you are suddenly a detective and know all the facts of the case? Like these guys raped some girl? Like all frat guys do that? Like fraternities harbor the scum of the earth? Like they all know just what happened but won’t tell on the friend’s they paid for? Like they would throw rocks through their own windows to get some sympathy? Give me a break. The fact is, if you haven’t been in a Fraternity, you don’t know a thing about it, how it runs, or what its members are like. Fraternity members don’t go around saying, “people who aren’t in frats are rapists, they suck, they are scum…blah blah blah. So what gives any of you the right? Before you let your lack of understanding or perhaps your jealousy take over, think for a second about how little you really know.

Wow. 3:15pm, you are a fucking idiot. You assume people are “better” for living in a private dorm or coming from out-of-state. With an attitude like that, what’s not to love?

all you do gooders saying dna tests are necessary… can u foot the bill?? Sigma chi guys have offered dna tests, but it is not practical at all to have someone pay for over 100 dna tests

The money for the DNA tests should come from Sigma Chi’s social budget that they are not going to use. This needs to happen before this semester ends, or else the criminals are probably going to get away.

When Sigma Chi starts actually doing something to clear its name, I’ll be all ears. Voluntary social probation? OoooOOOOOooohhh. They’re taking this VERY seriously.

5:31 lori berquam should pay for them. you think it’s good for admitted students and/or their parents to ask about campus and hear about gang rape? it’s in the university’s best interests to investigate the matter and get it solved, get the guy(s) in trouble.

People who hate the greek system are ignorant assholes. We all know you are letting your feelings of rejection get the best of you. Maybe you weren’t wanted in a sorority or fraternity, but that doesn’t mean the system is bad, rather you are uninteresting or have nothing to offer. I am not in a fraternity, but I know many people who are. I have been to fraternity parties and they are no more “crazy” or out of hand than an average house party. We all like to get fucked up, so stop allowing “Animal House” to serve as a benchmark for modern college fraternity debauchery. So many people that have made comments are acting as though rape doesn’t occur anywhere beside a fraternity house, reducing all greek life to the works of Satan. That’s hardly the truth. Many fraternities and sororities contribute to this community, which is a lot more than a majority of students at this institution can say. Most students are out there fucking around just as much as greek members, some are committing worse offenses…so lay the fuck off you immature assholes. Quit the pigeonholing you morose, close-minded douches. If a group of people from Sigma Chi are guilty, it is not because they are in a fraternity, but because they are indecent human beings; don’t forget to separate the two.

“The perspective is from a guy who has some very close, very trusted friends who are now attached to a nightmare of a situation simply because of the fraternity to which they pledged.”

As a member of the greek community I am aware that my actions and actions of my fellow brothers reflect not only my house, but also the entire greek community. As president of his fraternity, I would hope that Soffer is aware of this too. Don’t be so naive to think that no one in Sig Chi knows what actually happened that night. Purposefully keeping quiet about a situation of this magnitude is only hurting Sig Chi’s and the rest of the greek community’s name. Soffer is only fueling the hatred and disgust of Sig Chi by commending them for staying hush about the situation.

To Sig Chi: Not saying anything about the situation has only made it worse for you. It has allowed speculation and hatred to boil as it ruins your name and reputation on campus. Whether your fraternity or members are found guilty or innocent, do yourself a favor and be proactive about the situation. Let people know you aren’t trying to cover anything up and are helping to look for the guilty parties, whether they are in your fraternity or not. Help out yourselves and the rest of the greeks on campus, because right now everyone is assuming the worst.

I find it hilarious that people are justifying their positions by saying “we don’t even know who did it. There aren’t any suspects. So Sigma Chi should not be forced to give DNA.” I realize that the law requires there to be substantial evidence against a person before taking a DNA sample from him or her, but is it not ironic that THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RAPIST(S) INTENDED? Of course she can’t identify anyone, SHE WAS MOST LIKELY PASSED OUT DRUNK OR DRUGGED. If she knew who the guys were, why would she not say so? Do you think having your credibility questioned with no prosecution as a result is fun? The fact is that it did occur in the Sigma Chi house. It may not have been a Sigma Chi member, but it occurred there and that, for me, is enough to ask for DNA tests.

-MM

“all you do gooders saying dna tests are necessary… can u foot the bill?? Sigma chi guys have offered dna tests, but it is not practical at all to have someone pay for over 100 dna tests”

If the Sigma Chi guys are so concerned about saving the police the cost of 100 DNA tests, they could just turn in the rapists. But if they don’t, I think the expense of 100 DNA tests is justified if it removes a few gang rapists from our community.

While false accusations or vandalism are also crimes, rape does not compare. Rape is much more serious. Vandalized windows can be replaced; a fraternity’s reputation can be absolved. The victim will have to live with this forever.

I think we need to be patient as the police sort this out, but I also hope that other women who have been affected or anyone who knows something will come forward.

I understand the positive and philanthropic aspects the Greek community offers to this campus and to Madison each year. But I also understand the brotherly ties one may form with other frat members. I am weary of the obligations these fraternity brothers might feel to each other, and afraid some may keep pertinent information concealed. I hope members of this fraternity speak up, and speak up soon. If you know something and you don’t say anything, you might as well consider yourself guilty.

I’d like to note a few facts would support the fact that fraternities men are not “better” but at least as good as the rest of the campus. First, during the fall 2008 Semester more than half of our campuses fraternity chapters GPAs were above the all male campus average. This supports that “frat boys” are as smart, if not smarter than the majority of the campus, “brah”. Second, the Wisconsin greek system execute the Humorology show yearly which is a bigger philanthropy event than almost all other student organization philanthropy events combined. Third, statistics show that fraternity men, on average, have a 22% higher wage and are almost twice as likely to get hired within 2 months of graduation than their non Greek counterpart. 86% of Fortune 500 CEOs are Fraternity men, so are a majority of supreme court justices and National politicians. Fourth, everyone knows that because people always jump to conclusions about the Greek community, members of Fraternities and sororities have to go to hours of seminars on because they are under 100 times more scrutiny than any other member of our campus. I’m not saying what happened to that woman wasn’t horrible, in fact I believe the exact opposite. It is just so horrible that people don’t realize that a Fraternity man is no different than any other man on campus. When you jump to conclusions it only hurts a lot of good men and deprives our campus of a lot of leaders. I would love to see you guys with the shoe on the other foot. So next time your gonna bad mouth the Greek system, think about what your saying and make sure it doesn’t make you look even more ridiculous then you did before.

@8:11pm

Yeah, that’s nice. On some campuses, especially in the South and East, everybody is Greek. That doesn’t change the fact that here the fraternity/sorority subculture is largely one of underachieving but well off New Yorkers who couldn’t get into Cornell’s hotel school.

This is the 85 IQ that came out in favor of cheating because, well, screw morals and ethics. I’m sure that undecided major gets really tough in the junior year. It’s the curves fault I got a D, I tell ya!

All of these ABD (all but degree) scum can leave our campus.

@8:11 — “First, during the fall 2008 Semester more than half of our campuses fraternity chapters GPAs were above the all male campus average. This supports that “frat boys” are as smart, if not smarter than the majority of the campus,”

I guess your F in stats didn’t bring down the average that much. Please, retake it and learn the difference between a mean, e.g “fraternity chapters’ GPAs”, “all male average”, and a median, for example, the 50th percentile (“the majority of campus”).

“Brah”.

Your hat is on crooked and you write at a 4th grade level

The court cannot demand the entire fraternity to give up their DNA. They could ask for volunteers to step forward, but that is it. Have you ever seen an episode of Law and Order (or have lawyers in the family)?

TO THOSE OF YOU BEGGING FOR STATEMENTS FROM SIGMA CHI…..

You are all retarded. When police are investigating a case and there are allegations of rape - - - the WORST thing a person can do is make public statements. That risks both self-incrimination and interference with the investigation!

There is potential for criminal charges in this case of very serious nature. The only option Sigma Chi has is to keep quiet or they risk accidently incriminating themselves and creating more pubic drama. With all the hatred and anger surrounding this case, stories will get flipped. They are in a loosing situation and, with spring break around the corner, the best thing for Sigma Chi to do is ride it out and keep quiet.

@8:11

The concerns aren’t whether or not fraternity men get better grades on average. (So I will concede that point for the sake of argument)

The concern is that the fraternity system enables its members to commit crimes that as “more minor” things (hazing) with little but a slap on the back in what can only be categorized as a “good old boy” network. This kind of attitude towards poor behavior, can then possibly lead to a situation such as we (may) have now, where “brothers” are protecting people who have done despicable things.

This shouldn’t be a wake up call but it is, the IFC is a joke.

And to your they come out with better jobs??? Wealth obviously builds wealth, as studies have shown. No one is surprised that children of the wealthy often become wealthy themselves…. Which is why the humorology show makes so much money.

Oh anddd cheap dig but Chris Farley Foundation really??? Can it possibly be a good P.R. move to announce that the frats have lots of addiction problems???

Sigma Chi took themselves off social probation, per instruction from their nationals. They have no violations, no reason to be on probation.

Again, for all of you ignorant retards, Sigma Chi has already offered to do DNA testing. There’s no conclusive evidence beyond testimony from a blacked out girl that any rape occurred at the Sigma Chi house, so why should they pay for it?

I can’t even begin to describe how disgusted I am with the majority of people who comment on this stuff.

Listen, there could be not a single instance of rape, hazing, or even gameday parties and people here would still have the ill-conceived notion that all frat guys are rich douchebags who enjoy the occasional sexual assault and kegstand while all sorority girls are spoiled daddy’s girls who spend too much money on boots and whore it up every weekend. People are going to think what they want to think. As a fraternity member myself, I’ve come to accept this, and unfortunately, there’s nothing I can do about it.

The people who criticize the Greeks probably have absolutely no idea what it is they do. That’s the exact same thing as people who criticize the government, religion, etc… 90% of these people have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about, and probably should not be allowed to ever talk. They simply spew the rhetoric of hatred that’s been around for decades now, and feel some sort of sick justification in doing so because, well, “everybody else does it”.

I’ve spent the past three years getting to know men and women, Greek and non-Greek, who will be my best friends for the rest of my life. Many of these people, Greek and non-Greek, I would never have met if it wasn’t for my fraternity, and many of these people have absolutely changed my life. The experiences I’ve had as a result of being in a fraternity have shaped who I am, and who I am is not a rapist, an alcoholic, or a stuck up east coastie.

When I say experiences, I’m not talking about parties, or even community service or philanthropy, the things that Greeks always try to bring up to combat the stereotypes all the “haters” out there perpetuate. All of that is well-worn territory, and at this point it just feels rather trite to even bring up. I’m talking about the connection I have with 100,000 other people nationally, the ritualistic, almost religious bond I share with my brothers here on campus, and the values I’ve learned from all of this.

I never came to campus expecting to join a fraternity, but I’m so glad I did. I was as closed-minded as the rest of you who continually bash them, but I was pleasantly blind-sided by the truth in the fall of my Freshman year. The problem here on campus isn’t fraternities, it’s closed-mindedness. And that, my friends, goes beyond “socioeconomic status” or “jealousy”, words some of you have brought up. People on both sides of the issue, Greek and non-Greek, need to work to get rid of this attitude. At the end of the day, we’re all Badgers, all human beings.

I didn’t know it was possible to say something negative about the work humorology does, but I believe you just did it. Learn your facts before you go off. I’m pretty sure hundreds of students coming together to put on a show that entertains the entire school and community, while raising tens of thousands of dollars for charity is horrible…

do you go to school here?

I say we just all have a giant brawl, west side story style, on library mall…

because almost every comment on all articles (both “sides”) written about the rape of one of our fellow classmates makes me loose faith in the students here at uw. Hands on combat seems like a far more mature way to battle out disagreements than responding to the garbage being posted.

I find it hilarious that the same people who a few months ago were probably laughing at the Badger Band for being in trouble and/or shocked at the allegations are now defending an act that has far more evidence behind it and is about a thousand times worse.

The band got nation-wide publicity for making some blindfolded boy take a bra off of some other boy and give “unflattering” haircuts to kids who agreed to the proceedings… and yet this act of staggering brutality is being waved off.

Shame.

The statistics for false rape reports are the same for any other violent crime. The false ones just happen to be the ones that get the most press. If every single reported rape was publicized as much as the Duke Lacrosse team fake report was, no one would even remember the Duke Lacrosse team.

@12:39 As a member of a Humorology cast I take extreme offense to your statement. First, how many people on campus are commitment ten hours at least a week to prepare for UW’s largest philanthropic event. Second, check your facts, along with the Chris Farley foundation the money goes to One Heartland which helps children whose lives have been extremely changed by a wide array of diseases. Also I see no linkage between Chris Farley and “Frat Boy” addiction. Just because we want to help those who want to break the chains of drug and alcohol abuse doesn’t mean we are at all addicted to any substance. In terms of your wealth comment, since I am a midwestern lower class boy who works to pay his dues, that must mean that I am not set to be a Fraternity member when, in fact, a lot of the members of my house are the same way. I don’t think you fully understand the scrutiny that we are under as fraternities. On top of Madison Police, we have to keep a clean nose because we are continually being checked on by the all-greek council, panhel, and IFC. I would also like you to consider if there are any other student orgs on campus that require you to keep a 3.0 cumulative GPA, perform 20 hours of community service a semester, raise a certain amount of money for non-profits, and keep our noses clean so ignorant people don’t have fodder for comments such as these before

@2:49 I’m down

This is not about the fucking Greek community.

I am so SICK of both sides bitching. “All frats are assholes and we should chase them off our campus,” or “It wouldn’t be front-page news if it had happened anywhere other than a frat—you all just hate us because we’re frats.”

Um, HELLO? An allegation of rape was made. I agree with Jordan—the people calling for pitchforks at the forum tonight are grossly out of line. But rape is serious business. If it happened in the band, we’d expect serious attention and action from Mike Leckrone and the other band members. If it happened in Housing, we’d expect serious attention and action from Housing residents and whoever the head honchos in Housing are.

It happened in Sigma Chi. We are not wrong to expect serious attention and action. We are not being unfair, we are not scapegoating the entire Greek system, we are not picking on anybody. Get over yourselves already. Nobody is preventing Sigma Chi from actually DOING anything to clear its name. You want a chance to defend your reputation? Then go and fucking defend it, rather than sitting idly by and complaining about how everyone hates you.

very poorly written…

I can’t be sure, but I don’t think the issue is that they are complaining that everyone hates them. In fact, we cannot be sure they may any comments here, although it seems possible so we can allege it, call the press and drag them through the mud. Bottom line, right now there is nothing to defend. They haven’t been charged, it is not even fact that rape occurred at their house, or that they had any part in it (except by all the genious detectives who comment here). Why should they start making comments, that will obviously cause an uproar about what atrocious monsters these frat boys are (by the way, the majority of men in fraternities are not from the coast, and I don’t believe “brah” is standard to their vernacular). They are damned if they do, damned if they don’t, apparently. All of these obnoxious people who clearly have had it out for frats for no apparent legitimate reason will say what they want regardless of what is presented in front of them. And you can be sure, I highly doubt Sigma Chi is asking for attention from the Badger Herald press right now. I would have to believe the two aren’t on the best of terms. So in my final statements. 1) Leave these men alone, they haven’t done anything to any of you, and it is still to be proven that they have done anything wrong at all 2) Let the professionals handle this case. Your obnoxious commentary might make you feel better about a community you obviously don’t understand, but it isn’t doing this victim or our school any good. 3) Sorry to say, they aren’t going anywhere, and you will for a long time get to stare angrily at them doing their thing on Langdon St. 4) I highly doubt they know facts of this case and would simply hide them. I know several members who are as supportive of helping this victim as any of you. Just because they don’t make public comments doesn’t mean they don’t care about the situation. 5) Throwing out ridiculous remarks like “That doesn’t change the fact that here the fraternity/sorority subculture is largely one of underachieving but well off New Yorkers who couldn’t get into Cornell’s hotel school.” just embarrasses the non-greek culture who seem quite angry and almost green (that means envious “brah”). 6) I doubt they care what any of you think because clearly, plenty of people are supporting them in this time, and I think its safe to assume, those are the people they are friendly with. 7) I will end with 2 simple quotes by William Hazlitt - “Prejudice is the child of ignorance”; “The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about”

Lets hope for a timely conclusion to this matter and God bless.

Something needs to be done. Someone needs to be a man and come forward. Maybe the whole Frat as a whole should go and give their DNA sample. As a whole address the issue and stop being so defensive. Sigma Chi needs to either prove they are innocent of they need to confess to their crime.

1 in every 3 women have been sexually assaulted, many are just ignore these assaults. But RAPE is NOT OKAY, and many women are ashamed to talk about it. Lets support these women too afraid to come forward. I want the University to say SEXUAL ASSAULT is NEVER OKAY, then i want the University to DO SOMETHING! I’m so sick of hearing about doing something, i need to see some progress. How am i supposed to feel safe?