“It’s no secret that attacks against Muslims in America have been on the rise ever since the tragedies of Sept. 11.”

That is a total lie. Prove it. Let’s have some statistics. Verifiable statistics.

“God willing”

You mean “Allah” willing, as I assume you pray to “Allah” of the Koran. “Allah” is not God. Jesus is God. “Allah” is a pagan moon deity idol from pre-Islamic lore that Mohamet used to gain power. This has been proven archeologically, and it’s obvious to anyone who is knowledgeable about the 350 Arabian pagan deities, with “Al-ilah,” the moon god, as the chief deity. Similar to Zeus and Jupiter of Greek and Roman myth. Mohamet was born a pagan. He knew all about the 350.

Now, let’s have some Free Speech, Badger.

Also, don’t forget to provide the stats I asked for above. Oh, also include stats re: Jewish people (they have by far the most “attacks”), and Blacks.

nice article

Is there Free Speech concerning this Moslem’s column? Probably not, right Badger?

“It’s no secret that attacks against Muslims in America have been on the rise ever since the tragedies of Sept. 11.”

That is a total lie. Prove it. Let’s have some statistics. Verifiable statistics.

“God willing”

You mean “Allah” willing, as I assume you pray to “Allah” of the Koran. “Allah” is not God. Jesus is God. “Allah” is a pagan moon deity idol from pre-Islamic lore that Mohamet used to gain power. This has been proven archeologically, and it’s obvious to anyone who is knowledgeable about the 350 Arabian pagan deities, with “Al-ilah,” the moon god, as the chief deity. Similar to Zeus and Jupiter of Greek and Roman myth. Mohamet was born a pagan. He knew all about the 350.

Now, let’s have some Free Speech, Badger.

Also, don’t forget to provide the stats I asked for above. Oh, also include stats re: Jewish people (they have by far the most “attacks”), and Blacks.

Ammar,

It was good of you to speak decently of Robert Spencer and to acknowledge that the interpretation he professed are not his own ideas, but rather, the interpretations by prominent Islamic scholars.

In actuality, you disagree with them, not Spencer. Your personal interpretation is laudable, but until it becomes unified and accepted in the mainstream Muslim theologan community, and is taught en masse to Muslims, it is limited in value.

Regards.

Thanks for your thoughtful column, Ammar. Very well done.

Dear Ammar,

I found your column very decent thoughtful, yet I would like disagree with you on a point and make an observation. First of all, I don’t believe your assertion that “attacks against Muslims are on the rise.” Lately, when hearing that claim, the now-disproven Mosque “poison gas case” is cited. And it was a hoax.

Second, your concerns about Mr. Spenser’s rhetoric is deeply ironic. If I follow you, you’re saying that a) Spencer points out documented cases of Islamic violence; b) These acts of violence are plausibly sanctioned by the Koran; c) The people who commit the violence do so in accordance with many schools of current Islamic teaching; d) When Spencer points that out he’s contributing to an atmosphere of hate. It’s kind of like saying, “Bob is violent, but don’t tell anyone, or they won’t like him.

Amman, has it occured to you the vast disparity between the number of violent Muslim fanatics and the number of violent Christian fanatics? Why do Christian fundamentalists drive horse-drawn buggys and Islamic fundamentalists blow themselves up? I walked in off of the street to a prominent Mosque book store in London. It was full of young men. No one was smiling. Scores of books for sale had machine guns and other weapons on the covers. I have never seen anything like this in a Christian book store.

In the interest of full disclosure, readers should be made aware whether Ammar is listed a member of the Muslim Student Association (MSA)?

Q: Have Ammar’s handlers in the Wahabbist MSA approved the content of this propanganda, masquerading as opinion?

A: The prerogative to issue fatwas regarding issues of sharia law is granted only to Ammar’s dead false prophet, or authoritative representatives of their mythical Ummah. Which one is this slave of Allah invoking? Or is Ammar free to interpret Islam himself?

I’d also like to point out how bigotted, ignorant and intolerant it is of Ammar to condemn the spiritual commitment of Muslims who observe honor killing fatwas.

By what authority does Ammar excommunicate (takfir) his devout jihadist brethren— as “not in line with Islamic teachings”— when they practice “honor killing” to enforce sharia fatwas?

Again, the prerogative to issue apostacy fatwas is granted only to his dead false prophet, or authoritative representatives of his mythical Ummah. Which one is Ammar invoking?

Have his MSA handlers of the Apartheid Kingdom of Saudi Arabia or the Muslim Brotherhood approved Ammar’s anti-jihadist fatwa?

“Honor Killing” is absolutely Islamic http://www.islam-watch.org/SyedKamranMirza/honor_killing.htm

Now before MSA apologists pull out their canned answer (that the Koran doesn’t command honor killings), let’s review the evidence. http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sr&ID=SR4107

In the showcase “moderate” state of Jordan, penal code, Article 340 (hyperlinked above) states: “(a) He who discovers his wife, or one of his maharim [female relatives of such a degree of consanguinity as precludes marriage], while committing adultery with another man and kills, wounds, or injures one or both of them, is exempt from any penalty; (b) He who discovers his wife, or one of his sisters or female relatives, with another in an illegitimate bed, and kills, wounds, or injures [one or both of them] benefits from a reduction of penalty.”

The Jordanian Islamic Action Front (IAF) issued a fatwa that declared honor-killings are seen as favorable by Islam; male relatives should punish their female relatives and not leave this duty to the state. Ibrahim Zayd al-Kaylani, head of the IAF’s Ifta committee, said that a man who restrains himself from committing an honor killing, leaving this unpleasant burden to the government, “negates the values of virility advocated by Islam.” Article 340, Kaylani added, is based on “the Islamic principle that allows a Muslim to defend his honor, property, and blood.” Muhammad ‘Uwayda, dean of Zarqa University’s Shari’a College and a member of the lower house, stated that while the Shari’a does prohibit individuals from taking the law into their own hands, “cases where a man catches his wife committing adultery are the exception.” The IAF issued a fatwa to the effect that “canceling Article 340 would contradict the Shari’a.”

Thus, we see the showcase “moderate” state of Jordan has declared that honor-killings are part of Islamic dogma.

I do not intend to go into the range of legal doctrines circumscribing Muslim immorality laws. Suffice it to say, Westerners are well aware of the campaign to hide these (and other) shameful aspects of your religion of mysogyny.

In point of fact, it is Ammar’s co-religionists (not Americans) who remain unaware of her moderate/rejectionist views forbidding “the action of force”— as evidenced by the ubiquity of this practice in Muslim cultures globally.

Muslims like Ammar can chew the carpet and mutter the Koran until they’re blue in the face, hoping to discern truths from the illiterate, psychotic babblings of a dead false prophet. But don’t expect Westerners to waste our breath convincing her co-religionists.

Ammar needs to refute his jihadist brethren (who typically don’t read the Badger Herald)— which shouldn’t be difficult in light of his insistence that honor killings for rape are not in line with Islamic teachings.

But despite a great deal of bluster, there is no large-scale organized movement of Muslims countering the jihadist doctrines— and no coherent moderate Muslim theology that teaches against jihad or the subjugation of women on Islamic grounds.

Islam’s sharia law system is ossified and unchangeable. The values put forward and acted upon by the culture of “honor killings” are mandated by the Koran and praised in the hadiths, Sira, and by hundreds of thousands of scholars and billions of Muslim voices that have exhorted death for immorality over the ages. Indeed, public execution of women for immorality (adultery, etc.) is commanded— and widely practiced in the Muslim world (in particular, Ammar’s Saudi homeland).

Instead of smugly lecturing Westerners, Ammar should go to Gaza— or Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the Paris banlieue, etc., ad nauseum— and try challenging her co-religionists about how honor killings misinterpret the Koran. Any guesses how long Ammar’s apostacy would be tolerated?

“It?s no secret that attacks against Muslims in America have been on the rise ever since the tragedies of Sept. 11.”

Actually, it must be a very well-kept secret indeed, because if what you say is true, and attacks on Muslims in the US are on the rise, the MSM would be looping that through every news program non-stop, because anything that makes America look bad is catnip to the likes of David Gregory.

In truth, the only group that claims attacks are on the rise is the wahabbi-loving extremists at CAIR, who would love nothing better than to jettison the Constitution and replace it with the barbarity that is Sharia.

No thanks.

9:44- It is referred to as the “Herald” not “Badger.” Seriously.

Brilliant to hear a young Muslim speaking so charitably of a critic of Islamic literature. I know there are millions like you who can take the limelight from the radicals and transform the public discourse, and with it many people’s view of Islam and Muslims. People like Robert Spencer should be answered, not by protest or censorship, but by reasoned debate. Clearly Spencer is not a bigot, nor many who have concerns about aspects of Sharia, and neither are most Muslims. Agreeing to disagree is the first and hardest step toward a better situation.

Nice article and very civilized. Can you also write an article for your fellow muslims not to hate infidels like us and think we are pigs? Infidelophobia has been on the rise since… well, the very first day of Islam was born. That’s 1400 years of hate.

Ammar Wrote: “it is my belief … that the freedom of conscience is a basic human right and that Islam does not restrict that freedom.”

Unfortunately, this is not so, see Al-Bukhari number 6922:

Ibn Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allah said, “Whoever changes his (Islamic) religion, kill him.”

And this is not some relic confined to the ancient past, ex-Muslims today live in constant fear of this death sentence being carried out against them.

The very fact that the OIC rejected the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and crafted their Sharia compliant version - The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights – is further evidence to substantiate the obvious to all but the-liars-and-willfully-ignorant.

There are sadly millions of examples of the Islamic rejection of the freedom of conscience in the past century alone and about 270 million over the past 14.

Ammar Wrote: “It’s no secret that attacks against Muslims in America have been on the rise ever since the tragedies of Sept. 11”

Like everyone else, I too would like some examples. Also, please keep in mind Ammar that over 3,000 Americans were killed by infidelophobic Muslim jihadists on 09/11/2001 and to this date I do not think one Muslim has been killed in America by a non-Muslim in what could be described as hate-crime. Your co-religionists in Somalia shot a Catholic nun –who devoted her life to serving sick Muslims - in the back in response to the Pope quoting a Byzantine emperor who died 700 years ago. If anyone needs to be wary of violent reprisals, it is non-Muslims.

Finally, Ammar, if Muslims are indeed feared and hated anywhere it is the fault of their violent, hate-cultivating religion and the violence committed daily by their jihadist co-religionists. There have been at least 12,062 deadly Islamic terror attacks since 09/11/2001, but you’re right, islamophobia is real threat………

8:14 -

Does it not occur to you that your imaginary friend, who you call the generic term ‘god’, has a name that is itself, according to the Online Etymology Dictionary, “from P.Gmc. *guthan (cf. Du. god, Ger. Gott, O.N. guð, Goth. guþ), from PIE *ghut- “that which is invoked” (cf. Skt. huta- “invoked,” an epithet of Indra), from root *gheu(e)- “to call, invoke.” But some trace it to PIE *ghu-to- “poured,” from root *gheu- “to pour, pour a libation” (source of Gk. khein “to pour,” khoane “funnel” and khymos “juice;” also in the phrase khute gaia “poured earth,” referring to a burial mound). “Given the Greek facts, the Germanic form may have referred in the first instance to the spirit immanent in a burial mound” [Watkins]. Cf. also Zeus. Not related to good. Originally neut. in Gmc., the gender shifted to masc. after the coming of Christianity. O.E. god was probably closer in sense to L. numen. A better word to translate deus might have been P.Gmc. *ansuz, but this was only used of the highest deities in the Gmc. religion, and not of foreign gods, and it was never used of the Christian God. It survives in Eng. mainly in the personal names beginning in Os-.” The term is older than your apparent religion and, in fact, your imaginary friend has characteristics that are remarkably similar to the ancient Greeks’/Romans’ imaginary friend and the Muslims’ imaginary friend.

Nice article, Ammar.

Ammar might want to more carefully check his claims of all these vast numbers of hate crimes against Muslims in America. He has been misled by some of his own co-religionists.

It seems that some Muslims want to manufacture “hate crimes” out of thin air. In most of these below documented cases there may be a desire to promote Muslim victim status — always a sure way to gain sympathy, and there was in some of these cases certainly an economic motive — of manufacturing a hate crime to collect some insurance money:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2627

This article documents the efforts by CAIR, a Muslim Brotherhood affiliate that claims to speak for Muslims, to claim victim status for Muslims by hate crimes fabricating, distorting, double reporting, etc.

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2004/08/more-muslim-hate-crime-myths.html

If Ammar grew up in Western culture, he must be familiar with the story of the little boy who cried wolf. The Muslim community ought to be outraged that organizations that purport to represent them can be so untruthful.

My Allah? Describing the entity that I admire and look up to.

“God did not create man but man created god in his own image.” When I was young I never understood what it meant. Now I do. Here it is.

Brothers, please do not hang around at www.news.faithfreedom.org or www.Jihadwatch.org. or listen to Michael Savage radio talk show. If you ever leave Islam or do certain things that are forbidden then Allah will burn you in hell FOREVER.

• Allah will peel off your skin head to toe while you are conscious. • Allah will then cut you into pieces. • He will then put salt and pepper on your flesh. • If you become unconscious with pain then he will provide you with more consciousness to ensure you feel maximum pain. • And please, do not bring up empathy, compassion, sympathy, pity, forgiveness in this case because my compassionate Allah knows the best. • Then he will burn you on fire. • If you ask for water to drink then my dear, all merciful, compassionate, Almighty Allah will give you molten lava to drink. • If you started to die, my Almighty dear Allah will give you another life and another, and yet another to watch you suffer forever.

This is the Allah I admire, I love and I consider my ideal. This is my message to you. There is no god but Allah. I am the messenger and founder of submission. Surrender, submit your mind. By the command of Allah I describe to you above characteristic of the entity I look up to. Manmade Humane Geneva Convention will not apply. Forget about human rights as well. ACLU (American Civil Liberty Union) cannot defend you. Do not even mention “Cruel and unusual punishment” ICJ (International Court of Justice) wouldn’t have jurisdiction there to protect you. Let Western AI (Amnesty International) cry watching the punishment.

Even though majority of the people today, however self-centered, imperfect, prone with desire to take revenge, wouldn’t prescribe above extreme torture as punishment to even mass murderers or rapists but please do not accuse my Allah of being sadistic because Allah knows better.

Now, 1. From the above description of the creator as it is described by the person, the founder of “Submission” did you learn more about Allah or about that person, the messenger, the founder? 2. What do you think about the character, psyche, soul, and deepest darkest sadistic desires of the person who describes above characteristic of the creator, the entity he admires, loves, holds as ideal and look up to? 3. What do you think about the sense of right from wrong of the 1.2 billion followers who cannot see the evils and sadistic nature in the above description of punishment? What has happened to their soul? 4. What do you expect from the 1.2 billion followers of this founder? Peace? Or Terrorism?

Most of the Western leaders and philosophers already figured out the falsehood and some of the filth of religious teaching. That is one of the many reasons why Old Testament was washed to New Testament and revised many times. But the New Testament was not clean enough. Therefore, they came up with the “Separation of Church and State” and implemented it. Can Muslims do the same?

Have you heard of Christian Republic of Canada, France, Australia, Japan or South Korea etc.? Have you heard of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Indonesia, Iran, etc.? Think about it.

Feel free to respond to timf1234@yahoo.com

I was born and raised in an Islamic country, have lived and breathe with Muslims for decades. I know every genetic code of Muslims. I know Islamic neurons. I know every blood cell of Muslims. Muslims are the victim of Islam. Let’s help cure them of the disease (“submission” of their brain) that directly attacks their neural network. I am aware of the death of their soul.

We should “Fight for the Right to blasphemy with impunity” This is very important because the only way to make Muslims aware of the sickness of Islam is to talk about it. Hundreds of thousands of Ex-Muslims are hiding in the West from the wrath of Islam. We need some protection before we can come out in public. Muslims in the West and elsewhere can fool the relatively simple hearted Industrialized nations but they cannot fool us, the Ex-Muslims. Gullible West has no idea of Islamic teaching. We, ex-Muslims do. We will make Islam stark naked on the street as is.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31601EquatingIslamwithTerrorismWillLeadtoTerrorism

The suggestion, however, that mere conflation of Islam with terrorism by ignorant people in the West might cause otherwise peaceful Muslims to become violent only serves to remind us that it is more dangerous to criticize Islam than other opinions.

don’t be so quick to state that “attacks against american muslims are on the rise since 9/11”, CAIR now interprets someone walking on the lawn at a mosque as a “hate crime” part of their attempt to inflate the statistics, so be carefull what you choose to beleive.

Nice column. The majority of those who have commented, though, deserve to be sentenced to a hybrid Judao-Islamo-Christian hell for eternity.

I prefer the “Badger.”

And, I knew that the statistics I asked for above would not be forthcoming from the “al-taqiyya” (lying) Mohammedan. I knew it.

Nope, “attacks” against Mohammedans have NOT increased since 9/11. You total liar. In fact, it’s Jews who suffer the most “attacks,” and often by Jew-hating Mohammedans (and there are PLENTY of those).

What’s important here is that your entire criticism of Spencer boils down to two points: he mistakenly lumps rape with adultery in terms of Shariah “due process” and, by speaking out at all he runs the risk of inciting hatred against Muslims.

Even if you’re right on the first point, it’s a small one. If that’s the only thing Spencer was inaccurate about, big deal.

As for your second point, trying to avoid or discourage dialogue and scruting won’t change reality. Muslims need to reform Islam. It’s dangerous and unacceptable in its current form.

very nice well written article Ammar. Very respectful, direct, and civilized. you have set a very good example of a civilized Muslim in America.

I would like to add the following about Mr. Spencer, He: 1. Fails to prove that MSA is related to the Muslim Brotherhood 2. Failes to answer the question about his credibility in Islam/Mulims. 3. Fails to acknowledge the fact many MSAs requested to have a one to one discussion about his concerns 4. Fails to clarify the word of stealth jihad

…And the list of failures extends to much more.. Top line: Spencer is a failure.

it’s so reassuring to hear from the msa, who seem to assume they speak for all muslims in the world, that

“an upcoming open panel hosted by the MSA on the same topic(the threats of extremism and the erosion of civil liberties), the details of which will be announced soon.”

i’ll be watching to see whether they acknowledge their own connections with muslim extremism. very reassuring.

did i miss something? mr. spencer’s talk was on the subject of “Jihad: What Muslims say it means and why it matters”. yet ammar’s little op-ed piece doesn’t address the spencer’s subject at all. ammar only wants to quibble over other doctrinal matters.

msa is afraid to address the issue of jihad. very interesting. it certainly appears to me that everything spencer says about jihad must be right on target.

“‘al-taqiyya’ (lying)”

Maybe mention that the “lying” involved in al-Taqiyya was to pretend to be Christian for purposes of preventing serious bodily harm and/or saving one’s own life when coerced, threatened, or otherwise persecuted by the good Christians. Jackass.

The actual amount of hate crimes in america is as follows. Anti-Black 3136 Anti-Jewish 1027 Anti-White 1008 Anti- Male homosexual 881 Anti-Hispanic 770 Anti-Female homosexual 192 and finally Anti-Islamic 191 So much for it being on the rise. Jews get 5* more hate crimes against them. Also these figures are from 2006 from the FBI and it might be a bit wrong cause im canadian. Lol Just kiddin this stuffs reliable