Church group, please stop bothering the public school.

“RCF-UW didn’t want to be treated as second-class citizens”

Oh, like they treat gays?

I’m pretty sure the constitution says church and state have to be separate…….so why is a church group fighting for a public/state funded university’s money??? Quit wasting UWs time and find another means to fund your dumb organization.

If RCF spent as much time looking for funding or focusing on the organizations activities as they do fighting UW they would be a rather weathly and successful group…

For all the Christian haters: The First Amendment protects all speech, including that of a religious nature. Oh, and it also protects speech regardless of whether you happen to like or agree with the speech. Re-read it if you’re not clear on that point.

Yes, like they treat gays as evidenced by being the largest non-government provider on aids related funding. Religion is another measure of diversity whose inclusion should be celebrated by UW.

Seg fees for student organizations are taxations on student body implemented by liberal representatives in ASM some years ago. Seg fees should be abolished, but as long as they are still around, both liberal and religious(conservative) organizations alike should receive funding as long as they meet the criteria. Just because you don’t agree with the group or will never take part in its activities, doesn’t mean that the group doesn’t deserve a piece of the seg fees. I am not a member of RCF, but their funds are going to better uses unlike those given to Sex Out Loud for dildos, sex technique classes, and cases upon cases of condoms. RCF has seen the most criticism out of any seg fee funded group, even after several court rulings in their favor. My advice is if you don’t like where funding is going, voice your opinion at SSFC meetings and elect people to ASM that will change the way seg fees are handled.

Hey you Constitutional scholars, show me where there is any mention of separation of Church and State. Guess what, ya can’t!! I can go one further, provided funding is not because of the religious nature of the group, there is no endorsement (as some would like to claim).

You’ve all seen the first part of Zeitgeist, right? So Christianity is really merely a spin on the astrological view of the world of yesteryear. So let go of your fixation, OK?

$254,000 per year. Let me repeat that for effect. $254,000 per year.

Is that Religous Freedom or Greed?

I (and hundreds of others), have to pay an activity fee to play in the All University String Orchestra (which is actually a college credit coarse). I do so because its an activity I enjoy and I dont complain.

Likewise UW-RCF should make its members fund its budget, or find outside funding. Instead, the UW-RCF is exploiting a seriously flawed system to extort large sums of money from UW Students and then they pretend like they are the victums.

The only reason I pay seg fees is so I can get my diploma. I doubt I am alone in this position. It takes alot of chutzpah for UW-RCF to complain about getting only $254,000 of free money from college students like me.

to the previous poster: where do you get the idea that UW-RCF is complaining about getting $254,000? They’re trying to spend the money that has been allotted to them.

As for the size of the budget, they’re representing or offering resources for what is a large population on this campus - like it or not, many people hold religious beliefs and many people are Catholic.

Student orgs of all sizes and types are given money, so when considering the size of the operations that go on in serving such a large population, the amount of money isn’t so outrageous.

On a side note, this university once gave land to religious groups because President Charles Van Hise and many others saw the quite appropriate placement of them in realm higher education and life in general. That’s why you have the Pres House, St. Paul’s, and the Lutheran Chapel all in a row at the foot of State Street.

Religion isn’t the enemy; religious diversity has been a part of our university’s history since the beginning. And there are many students who benefit immensely from groups like these.

I understand your argument. However, with or without seg fee’s, Catholic students would have no problem organizing. Likewise, there are many other groups that shouldn’t be recieving seg fee’s, or at least not as much. The system in place is too easy to extort. The UW-RCF is just the most obvious example of the problem. It has nothing to due with its religous connections. I would like a system where I could opt-out of paying seg fees but be denied access to seg fee programs/groups.