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In the wake of school shootings in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Colorado over the past two weeks, one Wisconsin state representative devised a plan he thinks will help keep children safe.
Rep. Frank Lasee, R-Bellevue, announced legislation Wednesday that would allow teachers, principals and other school officials to carry concealed weapons on school property.
"This is too important to leave our children in danger," Lasee said in an interview, calling it another useful tool to help keep Wisconsin students safe.
In addition, Lasee said he plans to offer his bill for co-sponsorship early next year when the state Legislature reconvenes.
The proposed bill would not require all school officials to carry concealed weapons but would legally provide the option.
According to Matt Canter, spokesperson for Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle, there would not be widespread support for the bill, particularly from teachers and police. He added Doyle would not support this bill nor sign it, should it ever reach his desk.
"The governor feels that we want our teachers to teach," Canter said. "Police officers become police officers to enforce the law — we don't need our teachers serving as police officers."
But in support of his proposal, Lasee cited similar plans in effect in other countries.
"It's working in Israel and Thailand," Lasee said. "In 25 years, they haven't had any incidents."
Israel allowed teachers to carry weapons after Palestinian terrorists attacked many schools in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Thailand enacted a similar law after Muslim terrorists attacked its schools.
"Heaven forbid that these Muslim extremists and terrorists start targeting more soft targets like schools," Lasee said. "It could happen, and it's unfortunate, but it's the world we live in."
Along with other fatal school shootings around the United States over the past week, one hit rural Wisconsin Friday when a 15-year-old student shot and killed his principal at Weston High School in Cazenovia.
And Canter said the most important steps to school safety and prevention of similar incidents don't involve concealed-carry laws. He said Doyle stresses the importance of making sure schools have specific emergency plans, and that students and teachers feel comfortable informing authorities when there is a possible threat.
"It's worth noting that the staff and students and teachers and administrators at Weston schools did an amazing job, and they were truly heroic," Canter said, noting that the school was on lock-down within seconds of the fatal shooting of Principal John Klang.
Meanwhile, Doyle's gubernatorial challenger, U.S. Rep. Mark Green, R-Wis., was far less critical of Lasee's suggestion Wednesday.
According to spokesperson Luke Punzenberger, Green has general policies regarding public safety, but has not yet addressed specific policies directed at schools. He did say, however, that Green believes communication needs to be open between schools and police officials.
"Stopping violence in our schools starts with our kids," he said. "We need to be encouraging young people to come forward when they sense potential threats to their fellow students."
Lasee also expressed concern that gun control advocates might use the recent school shootings as a rallying point for stricter gun-control laws and qualified his suggestion by noting additional training would be needed to allow weapons around children in a crowded school environment.
"I want this to be a safe proposal," Lasee said. "There's no reason why we can't do this safely."
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Lasee seems to have forgotten that EVERYONE IN ISRAEL HAS SERVED IN THE MILITARY. THEY KNOW HOW TO USE WEAPONS RESPONSIBLY. Joe Brown hick in the backwoods though might NOT. What a fool.
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I agree, arm the teachers. But can you imagine the outrage if, for example, the principle in Wisconsin had pulled a gun and killed the student before the student killed him? The outraged parents and family of this ‘poor young man who was just acting out, who would have never shot anyone’. The years of financial grief the principle and school district would endure defending or paying lawsuits and legal expenses. We have become a nation of cowards, no one is capable of taking care of themselves or their community, the government must do it instead…
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There’s some real head-in-the-sand folk in Wisconsin,including Canter who’s so proud of the wonderful job the school did ~after~ the principal was ~dead~.
Let your children be defenseless little lambs, with defenseless little sheep teaching them. After the wolves come and destroy them the police will take great pictures and write up a good report.
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It sounds like a good idea, because I would like more people (especially liberal teachers) to be more comfortable with guns and understand how they work and how to properly use/care/handle them, not just irrational fear like many people have.
At the same time, most public school teachers are unqualified, lazy, incompetent, losers busy looking at porn on their computers all day at school, and I would have a hard time trusting them to safely handle and secure a firearm in a classroom.
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This is a good one to have because it tell about the teachers and how they are going alor of troubles around these days and all that..well hope to see ya’ll around and all that because i am always here to be around you and some one that needs my help on..lovelove and take care of life now these days. ~barlik
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That just wont work. Too many problems with it, kids could gain access to the gun if the teacher turns their back for anything.
Here’s a thought - why not have an armed guard at the entrance/exits to the schools? Make them take the attendance of anyone who enters the building that isnt a child. Have them radio whomever they have an appt with to confirm they are actually supposed to be there. Makes sense to me…
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In addition to my comment about the armed guards at the door - there should be metal detectors and bag scanners as well for the students. Students should be subject to a random pat-down or if they are deemed suspicious (just like the airport security).
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Finally a good idea….be responsible for your own safety. I think “gun free school zones” have been tried and are the joke of your town. I for one, don’t rely on police showing up in time, too much riding for that kind of bet. I am responsible for my own safety and there’s nothing you can do about it. That’s why its called “concealed carry”
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As AN INNER CITY public school teacher, who also sponsors the debate team, film club, is on the discipline committee, and in a Master’s track program, I resent the implication that I am lazy or incompetent. Furthermore, how could I look at porn if I can’t get the history channel’s website or poets.org via my federally restricted internet connection?
Though violence in our schools has been a problem, I can say that arming teachers is not the way to do it. Teaching kids to be afraid in school, where they are supposed to feel safe, is not the way to increase student achievement.
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Being in high school myself, there is absolutely no reason to give teachers guns. I certainly do not want my psycho orchestra teacher to have a gun. A student could steal the gun, and go on a rampage. And you never know when a teacher will forget their anti-depressants one morning and it all goes down hill from there…
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The laws don’t seem to be stopping the bad guys. Why stop the good guys?
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Oh God! What kind of message does that send our kids? Teachers aren’t trained in the use of weapons. If there is widespread belief that our kids are in danger then hire extra TRAINED policemen to patrol the hallways and all entrances. The best solution is strict gun control where only the police and military can have wepons!
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I would recommend reading Stephen King’s story “Suffer The Little Children” before seriously considering such a proposal.
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What in the world is wrong with you?
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This is idiocy. To safely use a weapon in a situation like a school hostage crisis requires months of training. Using a gun safely requires more than knowing how to pull the trigger.
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Teachers have ten-week summer vacations. That is long enough for a P.O.S.T. (Police Officer Standard Training). We could set up programs that allow teachers to become sworn and certified reserve police officers and reward them for doing so. There would be no reason whatsoever to object to teacher/cops carrying guns in the classroom.
That is certainly more feasible than trying to enforce a prison-and-insane-assylum weapons policy upon all society.
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Military duty is compulsory in countries such as Israel; giving US Teachers the right to carry a gun is just another extreme swing from US leaders that are dangerously out of touch.
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A strict ban is irrational and not possible. If you can feasibly create such a plan then I will give you my suppport. Weapons can be easily smuggled into the country and the criminals will become warlords. Arming teachers is a QUICK AND CHEAP solution. You can’t question that it will work, armed guards and metal detectors is better, but how long will it take to setup (legislature approval and granting funding) and what will you do in that time in between.
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RIGHT ON! Hey, this guy poses something truly original. Instead of taking our rights away by restricting citizens to bear arms, why not support that right to bear arms. How many perps would have the guts to go into a school not knowing who is armed? Anyone can be a “tough guy” and shoot up a school full of non-combatants. Hey, here is an idea: why hasn’t anyone attacked a police department? Because they might get into trouble? Because they like the police? Or is it because the police are armed and the perp would probably die after the first shot? I think it is clear that tougher gun restrictions on school property do not work. What law would have prevented those shootings?
You want to enable people to defend themselves, not disarm them.
That is what the police are for? How about this: most crimes happen BEFORE the police get to the scene- they pretty much act as evidence gatherers and testimony transcribers.
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Please. If you want to reduce shootings in schools, the solution is obviously less guns, not more.
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As a teacher, I find that most students have parents that do not support them walking away from fights if verbally harassed. The students don’t support or receive support from parents or peers for telling adults about potential problems, partially because if a school offical knows, they get the parent involved, and then they get into trouble for “snitching” at home. The parental culture of most minorities does not support the school culture of “notify an authority” Reform must start with the parents, or as a whole, but they cannot be discounted or counted on in any plan.
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Not all teachers but only Gun Permit owners would be armed. This category is well trained and is known to be statistically much safer than police officers, teachers in general, nurses, priests and pharmacists [politicians included].