"The first undocumented immigrants came on the Mayflower,"

BS - those people were invaders and they secured the land by right of conquest - just like land titles in all the world. The people that were already here had also come from elsewhere, just earlier. Those people fought the invaders but they lost. I don’t want to see the USA defeated by “La Reconquista”. If anything the USA should annex Mexico. 10% of the people born in Mexico live in the USA and most of the people still there want to move to the USA. I wonder if they all want to be US citizens pehaps they’d vote to become the 51st state?

” similar anti-immigration measures ” ” protest anti-immigration policy, ” BS - it is acually “anti-ILLEGAL immigration”, it’s tragic how there’s this tendency to ignore the law and spin the facts.

The ILLEGAL immigrants are cheaters. The ILLEGAL immigrants are all line jumpers who deserve to be sent to the back of the line. Millions of people all over the world are waiting in line to LEGALLY enter the USA.

Why should the ILLEGAL immigrants who BROKE THE LAW be given special treatment? Where is the justice in that?

Another amnesty will just prove that it pays to break the law.

MR. BUSH, BUILD THAT WALL!

Well now I understand - It’s just good old fashioned greed. We have it and they want it. There is a line, but some don’t want to wait in line. They are willing to march for the “right” to break the law tho.

We could be draining the rest of the world of intellectual and financial capital, but instead are debating the merits of amnesty for poor, uneducated maids, gardeners and construction workers who broke the law to sneak in, and continue to break the law with false ID and tax evasion. What idiots we are.

Yesterday, millions of immigrants demonstrated on the streets of U.S. cities asking to be allowed to work to achieve for themselves and their families the American dream. But why not stay home and work to achieve the Mexican dream or the Guatemalan dream or the Salvadoran dream? The World Bank’s fascinating new book, Where Is The Wealth of Nations: Measuring Capital in the 21st Century provides the answer to that question.

Every immigrant who makes it across the border automatically gains access to over $500,000 of capital. What? That’s right. The clever economists at the World Bank have figured out how to measure natural, produced and intangible capital. It turns out that natural capital (forests, minerals, oil) and produced capital (buildings, roads, and factories) while important pale in comparison to intangible capital for producing income and wealth.

By World Bank measurements, Americans enjoy access to $513,000 worth of capital, the vast majority of it embodied in intanglibles such as the rule of law, strong property rights, democratic governance, and high levels of education. This accumulated capital yields an average per capita GDP of about $38,000 per year.

Contrast this to Mexico, whose per capita capital amounts to $62,000 and yields a per capita GDP of $9,000 per year. Or Guatemala whose per capita wealth is just $30,000 procuces GDP per capita of $4,000 yearly and El Salvador where per capita weatlh is $36,000 yielding an annual GDP of $4,800.

Who could resist increasing their capital 8 to 16 times simply by moving? I know I couldn’t. Could you?

http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2006/05/whytheycome.shtml#013709

To the first two responses: Would we have an illegal immigrant problem if there weren’t jobs readily available? A wall is not the best solution; a better solution is to levy fines against those who hire illegal immigrants.

And really, is there actually an illegal immigrant “problem?” This whole issue is to distract you chumps (those who wrote the first two responses) from the debacle in Iraq and the perported 750 laws that President Bush has broken.

And remember, you can get angry in the fall too when your congressmen will distract you with a gay marriage referendum. Don’t people who are different from you make you so mad? I thought so.

Why fine companies that hire illegals?! The illegals that are here working are the only ones that should be allowed to stay! Get them worker permits so they start paying taxes! They are here for the right reason and I welcome them.

Stop giving free government services to illegals like in-state tuition (DOYLE!) and welfare. Thats where illegal immigration is hurting this country.

BH estimates crowd at 3000. DC estimates crowd at 1000.

never trust crowd estimates

“a better solution is to levy fines against those who hire illegal immigrants.”

I all for a huge fine for hiring illegal immigrants, but it would absolutely require a national identity card that would be extremely resistant to forgery or falsification. If you want to fine those who hire illegal immigrants then you have to propose some reasonable method for them to identify citizens and legal residents.

Using false ID is usually the second crime committed by an illegal immigrants. The IRS should notfy ICE of all duplicate SS number use but this was shouted down by the PC crowd.

“from the debacle in Iraq”

Not working - I think that the troops should be moved from Iraq to the southern border to stop the invasion.

“and the perported 750 laws that President Bush has broken”

What a load of crap.

“the perported 750 laws that President Bush has broken. “

Bush is the one pushing for amnesty you moron!

Let us adopt the Mexican laws and methods(except I’d object to robbing and raping the illegals before tossing them out, as is common practice in Mexico):

"In brief, the Mexican Constitution states that: Immigrants and foreign visitors are banned from public political discourse. Immigrants and foreigners are denied certain basic property rights. Immigrants are denied equal employment rights. Immigrants and naturalized citizens will never be treated as real Mexican citizens. Immigrants and naturalized citizens are not to be trusted in public service. Immigrants and naturalized citizens may never become members of the clergy. Private citizens may make citizens arrests of lawbreakers (i.e., illegal immigrants) and hand them to the authorities. Immigrants may be expelled from Mexico for any reason and without due process.”

We do not want to live in a Mexican culture. Drugs, crime, poverty, disease, and bribery. Illegal immigrants bring their problems to America and expect American taxpayers to pay for them. If they work as hard as they claim, why don’t they work hard in Mexico and make it a rich and prosperous country?

Your not the only immigrant, wait in line like everyone else!

No clue on the reliability of this, but it was forwarded from a friend who still lives in California.

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3’s of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).

(All 10 from the Los Angeles Times)

it was also a march for may day

I think this is all a plan for the lazy Mexicans to have an excuse not to work, since not working is what they’re best at.

To 3:33 pm, I agree fully. Why shouldn’t it go both ways? Granted, no American in their right mind would move to Mexico, but the laws should go both ways. Unfortunately, too many Americans whine about it.