The Badger Herald

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 9:09am):

I cannot believe that I paid for my son to attend this school when you have all these stupid girls running around there talking about screwing, etc. What kind of place is Madison? The women on this campus are totally "nuts", and I wish I could get my money back!!!!!

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 9:50am):

Further proof that women are slutty bitches... and if it wasnt for those damn nice boobs you girls carry around, I would hate you all.

No fatties!

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 10:13am):

Girls like this deserve everything that comes to them. Here's to your cheating boyfriends and S.T.D.s.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 10:15am):

This is why I cant stand women. They complain about their damn relationships all the time and what jerks men are... but then keep going after those men. Where is the logic? That's why men are generally more successful... we know something doesn't work, we avoid it. We don't keep trying it over and over and keep wondering why we are getting screwed.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 10:22am):

The title is misleading. This is definitely not a good girl.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 10:38am):

Lindsey, let's see some more pics!

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 10:57am):

When Lindsey's 45 and divorced with two kids, I wonder how she'll feel about the bad boys.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 11:12am):

This is why decent girls end up in trailer parks getting beaten by their fat, dirty, lazy, beer-gutted husband who has gone no where and given her nothing. But hey, he was a bad boy! What a turn on!

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 12:45pm):

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 2:13pm):

LOL @ all above posters being described by their 2 High School girlfriends as "nice". You are the guys who had the best friend (female) that just wanted to stay friends, because they didn't want to lose that. Get over it.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 3:36pm):

I'd say what Lindsay doesn't get (or insinuates and doesn't know how to say) is that most guys are really both good and bad, nice and mean. Anyone who doesn't have all those sides is either a social cripple or a playing up one part of himself to impress people.

And the rules change after college. One, you rarely live within a mile and a half of your significant other until things get very serious and you are living together. Two, you both have jobs and "just hanging out" can require making plans a day and a half in advance. Three, "nice guys" learn new tricks to keep up with the bad boys. Typically, the two stereotypes move closer together as well. The nice guys get swallowed up by corporate world, so they get badder, and the bad boys piss too many people off, so they get nicer. Maturity is a wonderful thing.

Been There. (March 2, 2005 @ 4:41pm):

We all go through our jerk phase.
Apparently Lindsay's still in hers. You've got some hard lessons ahead of you girl. Mr bad-ass will cheat on you, he will treat you like dirt, and if, god forbid, you should be fool enough to marry one, it will end in divorce.
And nice guys are (usually) better in bed. Jerks dont eat pussy.
-- Been There.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 5:06pm):

what's wrong with nice, reliable, and stable? i would choose that over some ass of a guy any day!!! i think you're waaaaay off here... the only type of girl that is looking for a "mean guy" is the slut or dumb ass. Sorry but its the truth. Girls that look for a bad guy don't actually want a good relationship in the first place. You are obviously emotinally unstable, and want a boy that will keep you in constant distress. That way you won't have to address your own intimiacy issues, and can just blame all of your own problems on him.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 5:44pm):

Attention Nice Guys:
Please don't listen to the ramblings of a clearly confused woman. The truth is, the kind of girls that you would actually want to have a real relationship with do truly want a nice guy. If you're looking for a girl who will lead you on and drop you for whatever comes next, then by all means swap Mr. Nice Guy for the Bad Ass act. I hope all you nice guys out there are smart enough not to belive this bullshit all girls on a bad ass theory. And for the record, plenty of fun can be had without being a "bad ass"

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 5:54pm):

So thats what I've been doing wrong, fuck

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 6:03pm):

Unfortunately, I agree with Lindsey. Nice boys make me uncomfortable... but that is because I am a bad girl. The title of this article is misleading. I'm not currently looking for the man of my dreams, I'm looking for some craziness and non-committal fun. Romance makes me nauseous, compliments throw me off and nice boys are usually scared of me anyway. I've tried both, and overall, I think that I just have to wait for a guy with a wild streak that may be unpredictable, but wants to be in a relationship. Which is exactly the conclusion of this article. All you nice boys bitching about Lindsey's opinion, you didn't read the whole thing.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 6:03pm):

My last serious boyfriend was a bad boy. When I first met him I was captivated by him...he was impulsive and daring and would stand up for me at any given moment, to anyone...and I loved it. But eventually the protectiveness turned into possessiveness and after a little less than a year it turned into verbal and physical abuse.

Bad boys are fun for a while. We all go through our "bad boy" phase. We love the drama, the attention. But then we grow up. We realize that the best guy is the guy that respects us, and who WILL turn off ESPN to talk about our relationship, because that's so much more important than if the Badgers beat Illinois.

Real relationships are based on honesty, trust and communication, not reputation.

Lindsey, I think you have a lot of growing up to do. Things change after college. I can only hope that you will someday look back on this article and see how wrong you truly were. And I hope that you don't have to learn your lesson the same way I did.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 6:04pm):

Ms. Wasley's opinions are of the most sickening and immature kind. As long as she employs this attitude I hope that she wallows endlessly through shallow and superficial relationships until one day she wakes up to find herself an old maid while all of her smart, mature friends have found happiness with a "nice" guy.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 8:46pm):

Hey Lindsay, I'll be your bad ass for one night and shove those dildo's you write about up your poop-shoot, and talk dirty the whole time you make me come. After that, we can do it all over again. No, Seriously though, Keep writing, it's like a real life fetish porno you write about, and even though I do't agree with 1% of this article, or any of your articles, they still amuse me during my classes. At least I get a hard on.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 8:46pm):

Now I'm watching wrestling, trying to be a tough guy, listening to rap metal turn tables in my eyes.
And I can't grow a mustache and I ain't got no season pass. All I got's a moped....

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 9:26pm):

"We realize that the best guy is the guy that respects us, and who WILL turn off ESPN to talk about our relationship, because that's so much more important than if the Badgers beat Illinois."

I agreed with you up till the part about the Badgers beating Illinois.

Anonymous (March 2, 2005 @ 10:38pm):

Amen. I figure if the relationship is strong, it can weather the Badgers beating Illinois. If you catch too much flack for watching the game, come on. We don't bother women when...women...do...something for four hours. Shop? Talk about us? Whatever it is you people DO.

Anonymous (March 3, 2005 @ 12:20am):

The Badgers should win big and then upset Illinois in the Big Ten Tourney. Hopefully we meet overrated Michigan State and give them a royal ass whipping cuz I fucking hate the Spartans and Tom Izzo.

Anonymous (March 3, 2005 @ 1:23am):

Oh, Lindsey. This article makes me so sad for you. "I think I would go insane if I spent the rest of my life with a guy that actually listened to my ramblings about shoes and gossip." Why would you belittle and generalize yourself like that? If you don't find your own thoughts important (and you think you are only capable of thinking about shoes and gossip), you'll probably have an easy time finding men who don't respect you. However, as a woman who doesn't feel definined by shoes and "overactive emotions," I resent your portrayal of women. Thanks for feeding into the rigid definitions that society has set up for gender and relationships. And I'm sure all the emotionally available men out there really appreciate being told they should have no feelings, not be able to communicate, and basically have to deny a large part of what it means to be human. If you want to carry these immature, irrational, and insulting stereotypes into your relationships- go for it. Don't generalize all women into the pathetic role you've made for yourself though.

Anonymous (March 3, 2005 @ 1:33am):

The Badger Herald has lost all validity in my mind. I cannot believe somebody of such intellectual immaturity could possibly be allowed to publish what she thinks. This is absolute trash. It scares me to think some people might actually listen to what Lindsey thinks. For the love of God, please stop writing, Lindsey.

Anonymous (March 3, 2005 @ 2:58am):

this is complete bull. if the goal is to have good sex, lindsey should know that bad boys doing it like a jackhammer are not as effective as a good goy that cares about the woman's pleasures more than they do getting themselves off. the only girls that seriously want bad boys are emotionally insecure and irrational...why in the world would you pick an asshole over a sensitive "nice" guy? are you sure you're not a junior in high school, lindsey?

Lindsey Wasley (March 3, 2005 @ 10:21am):

In response to many of the comments posted here I would like to say thank you for taking your time and sharing your views. I do however want to say that many of the comments sound as if you have a personal agenda.
I stated that 'a bad boy does not mean treating your girl like shit or cheating on her. Rather, a woman wants a man that is a little badass in life and has some balls.' I then also said that 'I am not advocating that all men on campus become a massive group of jerks. You can be a bad boy without standing your girlfriend up or causing her to cry. Don't confuse being badass with sleaze, just leave a little something for our overactive emotions to analyze.'
These are two very important statements that seem to have been skipped over by many of the readers. I explain that a badass, a nice guy and a sleaze ball are different guys. Being badass which I stated does not mean being a jerk or a sleaze.
I also recieved comments that women readers resented my portrayal of women. This I can understand was going to controversal. When ever any writer generalizes a group by race, religon, or gender, etc., it's bound to make people unhappy. I do believe that women are more emotional and I (I stated I) don't want to be with a man that is more emotional then I am.
Once again I would like to say that I stated that being badass is all relative. I am currently in a stable loving relationship with a good guy. The things that he does that are badass are not directed towards me. These are things like piericing his ears, littering sometimes and maybe he can chug a beer faster than the next guy. He doesn't abuse me physically, emotionaly or in any other way. I was not advocating anything of the sort. I am also I very mature, intelligent woman.
I want those shy, quiet and nice guys to find the spark, the things about them that make them badass. In a sense I was reinventing the word nice. I am now aware at how touchy this subject is. If anyone would like to disuss this farther please e-mail me at lwasley@badgerherald.com

Anonymous (March 3, 2005 @ 12:22pm):

"Ms. Thang"-
YOU SERIOUSLY NEED PSYCHIATRIC HELP...
Pathetic.

Anonymous (March 3, 2005 @ 6:59pm):

i hate fat girls

Anonymous (March 4, 2005 @ 7:45pm):

Lindsay, after reading your article, it appears you take pride in labeling and making assumptions about others (especially men). I would suggest taking a good look at yourself and the message you conveyed in your article. It appears you have some preconceived thoughts and judgments about others. Please remember, those you have labeled (by using a multitude of very unsophisticated terms) happen to be people. Give them credit for who they are, not what you think they are. Perhaps some very deep self analysis is truly what you need at this point in your life. Learn to appreciate the complexity and value of everyone.
In my opinion, publication of you thoughts and ideas is a travesty. It is people like you that contribute to stereotyping, discrimination and misconceptions. Readers, be true to yourself. It is people like Lindsay that need to change the way they think and act, not you.

Anonymous (March 4, 2005 @ 7:45pm):

Lindsay, after reading your article, it appears you take pride in labeling and making assumptions about others (especially men). I would suggest taking a good look at yourself and the message you conveyed in your article. It appears you have some preconceived thoughts and judgments about others. Please remember, those you have labeled (by using a multitude of very unsophisticated terms) happen to be people. Give them credit for who they are, not what you think they are. Perhaps some very deep self analysis is truly what you need at this point in your life. Learn to appreciate the complexity and value of everyone.
In my opinion, publication of you thoughts and ideas is a travesty. It is people like you that contribute to stereotyping, discrimination and misconceptions. Readers, be true to yourself. It is people like Lindsay that need to change the way they think and act, not you.

Anonymous (March 6, 2005 @ 2:56pm):

my sex life has been a bit dry lately. so....all i need to do to get laid is to go to prison and someday become an ex con. and it's not like you don't get plenty of sex while you're in prison waiting to get out.

Anonymous (March 8, 2005 @ 12:23pm):

I think she is just saying that women like a challenge. If you just kiss a girl's ass constantly she won't respect you and she'll get bored on top of that. Men are the same way if you think about it. There are however some expections where two people actually respect each other and playing games isn't the basis for the realtionship. We are an insecure people period!

Anonymous (March 10, 2005 @ 9:56pm):

I kind of agree... nice guys can be boring.. sometimes you just start looking at the bad ones.. unintentionally..

Anonymous (March 13, 2005 @ 1:06pm):

I think there's a subtle difference between the quintessential 'bad boy' and a confident male. While I understand you are not recommending girls to date complete arrogant, obsessive, abusive jerks, I feel your choice of words may not convey that. Maybe you would prefer a more confident male figure in your life who is not as open with their feelings (or in this case, overly emotional to your standards). I do not feel it is other peoples' choice to tell you how you should feel or who you should date, but I can see why some may be upset if it sounds as though you are suggesting what I mentioned earlier about your choice of words. Just my two cents. -AR

Anonymous (March 25, 2005 @ 5:52am):

Oh Lindsey, I think you have mistaken a wuss bag or ass kisser for a nice guy and I think you have failed to explain what a bad boy is. Oh, by the way, your article is judgemental and prejudiced towards men and women. In my eyes, that makes you unattractive. I'm a nice guy and I'm much better in bed than bad boys. Just ask my girl friend. Apparantly bad boys show no respect and they certainly couldn't make her fanny fart. Oh, and to all the nice guys out there, at least they won't pick up an STD for their troubles.

Anonymous (March 27, 2005 @ 11:06pm):

Lindsey,
I enjoyed reading your article, I might not have liked it but I enjoyed reading it. I do think however that I enjoyed reading the comments better.

-Small town Iowa boy. :)